User guide | Report about demographics . And also, most often, you do or you see a more preponderance of African-American NFL players that are using a version of hard providential language, to some extent, and it may not even be on the field. [chuckles] I--I--I wonder--I--he knew exactly what he was doing when he was kneeling for a national anthem during an NFL game. I serve as the leader of the Union for Reform Judaism, which is the largest and most diverse community of uh Jews in here in North America. The next question I have relates back to something you just said in your explanation of the welfare program versus the word of wisdom. That was a part of it. Before we leave it and go to South Africa and Apartheid, I want to - to note from your book I learned that before the earthquake, uh, Guatemala had a seven percent Protestant population. Graham didn't use the word holiness of life very often but this is what he was talking about. It is okay to do that. So that's one half of the equation. So this was the "respectable Klan in Mississippi". Andrew, thanks for that helpful foundation you laid there for us. And they - and - And so they couched in religious terms and he always spoke consistently in that way, and that ends up being crucial for both. Testimonies meant more than any theology textbook. So it is a kind of way that we poke fun at each other to legitimate our Blackness. At least it puts people in touch with things that they consider most important. Darren: Thanks, Chris. Marlow's plantation she heard right away from her daughter and her daughter's cousin, pap's cousin that she, that the landowner had been "raising Cain all day". And, uh, in the 1960s he continued to worry about that but they were soft on communism in Vietnam. He was awarded the Frank S. and Elizabeth D. Brewer Prize of the American Society of Church History for his book In Discordance with the Scriptures: American Protestant Battles over Translating the Bible. Like . And so that is what I am going to do when I say, "God is a Negro." Most Muslims are dissatisfied with the direction the country is going, which is a reversal of opinion from 2011. And again and again, this is what they would talk about is that second chance. So, so, the full title-- let me make sure I did, um, I am looking at the book as well. Right? So they are advocating for an end to the Apartheid regime and all of the you know, racist policies that that entailed and the tremendous amounts of Human Rights abuses which were, just increasing regularly throughout this - throughout the 70s and 80s. That said, she also was a woman not to be trifled with. And thank you for playing that. He became obsessed with oil. Chris: Yes, exactly. And Jefferson breaks with that. And that was typical of this emerging scientific optimistic confident mentality in the latter half of the 19th century. But-but those other things eat foods when they are in season, eat lots of fruits and vegetables. I'd like to - to go back a little bit and ask you to tell us what Jefferson did in Virginia to push - to push Religious Freedom, to push the separation of church and state that made him such a Religious Freedom revolutionary. That is helpful. Maegan: She talked about the black church as one of the few places, if, if not the only place that black people in her community had that they could really call their own, right? And so then you go to a meeting and there's all the music and the crowds and, you know, so there's all of this. And McNamara later turned against the war without saying he turned against the war. The sense of people going out into the world to discover, to explore, and to establish itself as a beacon of hope and light to those they had left behind. I wanted to ask a question about the bean pie which is fairly famous in the Nation of Islam culture but also, perhaps the wider American religious culture. I think she would agree that she did she did things as an instrument in, in God's hands. In the case of Puritans, of course, back in England. And if you're listening to this podcast or watching this video and you're interested in this, just do a quick Google "1939 State of the Union Address". African-Americans or I guess whatever they were called that point in time, have a right to play, and the owners and leaders of the Dodgers made that so. But, it is our job to restrain those evils. So, when the English were facing the Spanish Armada in 1588, a storm helped defeat the Spanish Armada. He's not publicizing his activities. Pastor Platero: And when we were hit with the virus uh and when it hit- hit us, it hit us hard. Paul: Yeah. But the other it represents is just what Vietnam came to stand for by the time that statement was issued in what we now call the cul-- or what would later come to be called the culture wars, which don't begin in the 1990s when the term was coined but I would argue began in the 1960's and 1970's. Uh, we were joking and I said, you know, "You know, you are in a Baptist Church." They were not the sort of fancy things desserts that are, you know, where they are sort of a [inaudible] like this popular food in the 80s and restaurants in the 80s. What does all of this mean maybe in the larger picture maybe of American exceptionalism, thoughts about that, you know, chosenness, etc.? Chris: Sure. They try to make that as-- as clear as possible. Catherine: I think there are two paths to that. So that is-- that comes from a speech he gave in the 1890s to the-- to a-- a group of Black Baptists. Can you help us understand the ramifications of what Stewart believed and did in the oil industry? We have been talking with Andrew Preston, professor of American History at the University of Cambridge and author of Sword of the Spirit, Shield of Faith: Religion in American War and Diplomacy. And the consequences for foreign policy for that I argue in the book were actually quite profound because it made them miss a lot of the ferment, the growing ferment in for lack of a better term what was happening in world religions. And so, I- I have used this illustration with them and I will- I will close my time uh by sharing it with you. Can you paint the full portrait of Mrs. Hamer and her religious motivations as she entered the realm of civil rights advocate here at age 44? Paul: Yeah. Linford Fisher is a Professor of History at Brown University. She said "Oh, I thought I did. The religious influence in American foreign policy has been sometimes tricky to demonstrate because you don't always find policymakers saying I want to do A, B, or C or X, Y, Z because of my religious beliefs, especially when you're talking about high-level diplomacy. And so there is something to be said about rethinking our understanding. Can you tell us about this and its implications? So what see are - for example, some of the big leaders of the army in the former Soviet Union traveling to the United States, traveling actually to Tennessee to meet with leaders in the Pentecostal Church, the Church of God to talk to them about, you know, moral values and instilling moral values and - in their people and so on and so forth, which is just really surprising, right? Connect and engage with the world beyond ourselves, noting that this is not just a community pandemic but a global one and is exposing the many pandemics around the world, but mostly within our own country of healthcare disparities, racial injustice, to name just a few. articulate from his brain, but that brain he was trying to connect to his heart simultaneously and really, when he makes the gumbo it is all from his heart. Is that an example of what you are talking about, Derek? Maegan: I think Ben McMorran comes and finds her in Tallahatchie County where she sought refuge. They did not represent the state of Mississippi's constituents. From the beginning of that pandemic at Heavenly Rest, the question has not been so much what we might say that will help people endure, but how we can strengthen the community around us so that together we can endure and even flourish amid the grief and loss, especially amid the knowledge of so much that is being exposed in our country where we once thought we might be immune, strengthening that community meant for us listening to science, telling the truth and acting in solidarity with those most at risk, and most of all, that commitment and effort meant staying connected to use every resource possible to do that. And we thank them for their willingness to be with us. Chris: Right, right. So technically, Jews are not supposed to be paying attention to other things during a holiday like Yom Kippur which is the most solemn day of the year, but you know the Yankees were playing so what do you do? And, but then they twisted it on him; the twist was they - while the Federals were reaching out to the established Christians and saying, "You can't have Jefferson's a Deist or worse." Now, to Vietnam and the religious beliefs that supported it or agitated against it. No, I agree. And I think it is because they still had-- implicitly is they still had this older view that, Christianity was tied to freedom, therefore, a slave Christian was just a contradiction in terms . This is the battle that takes place in the first half of the 20th century. Andrew: I wish I could help us understand our present moment better. And in fact, that is a gift that is being given to us that sometimes even someone like myself has overseen because I was jumping on an airplane, going across the country, going to another meeting doing this. Read reviews from world's largest community for readers. This annual event is going to take place. So once he becomes President, he's going to come and take all of our Bibles and I don't think they'd think of looking in your house for it." There are working groups in the United States who are trying to figure out ways to share the gospel message in a way that is perhaps less culturally insensitive, or is more responsive to the individual cultures of each place that they're looking to. But, you know, you start to scratch the surface a little bit. This was like Fox News or MSNBC. You would have a command economy and then you would have the free market and so on and so forth. So thank you so much. Margaret Rose, who is the Ecumenical and Inter-Religious Deputy to the Presiding Bishop of the Episcopal Church in New York City, and she is also a Priest Associate at the Church of the Heavenly Rest in New York City. Interviewer: Came to the Catholic Church. And the barrel of meal wasted not, neither did the cruse of oil failed. There were Baptist Churches, but they had to be registered with the State in order to be acceptable. But then you have this kind of counter, what I call the Counter Reformation of the 1960s coming in as well. Andrew: Yeah, so this is one of the, the trickiest things about these about these chapters. To do a deep dive into just one slice of this fascinating and meaningful subject, we have as our guest Kate Holbrook ,currently managing historian in the church history Department of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. She participated in the inaugural meeting. Kate: To answer the first part of that question, I think I would have to make so many generalizations that whatever I would say would be mostly false but-but what I can say is that my-my study of religion and food has shown that in religious groups that are looked down on, members of those groups often really want to be thought well loved by the people outside of the groups and-and food is commonly a site where they negotiate their desire for acceptance. And so, and uh, when we think about the construction of gumbo, we think about uh, you know, the vegetables, the meats and then this thing called the rue where you have to mix it and the rue becomes almost the soul of the pot of gumbo as you created. Had the pandemic not taken over, the fact that the Houston Astros lost their title because they were cheating during the World Series. Um I have seen good people of faith unite together uh to serve those who have been adversely impacted. Chris: Okay. It's the exact same logic and as I said, given that what was, what was happening in world politics in the 1940s, 50s, and 60s there is, you know, there was, it wasn't like the people like Carl McIntire were making this up out of whole cloth. But they also affiliate with this denomination, Southern Baptists, who historically came out of the slaveholding South. So we started to see where a lot of Mainline Protestants started to call people back from the mission field or to redefine their approach to missions to think about how they might do more to solve the problems of poverty or instability abroad to take a more kind of social justice orientation to their work. He didn't read them as you say, but certainly, he knew people were writing him.
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