What you view as wrong or immoral, at another time was viewed as an absolute, and to have followed your view would have meant that the Torah would never be passed down to our time to convey the messages within it that God truely wanted to convey. They quote other verses from other sections of the Bible that apply to Hebrews owning fellow Hebrew indentured servants. I agree with you on the practical aspects despite my disagreement with your theological viewpoint. There is a huge difference between reading & understanding. Orthodox means different things to different people. I do not hate God. JewishInsurgent, you present your case as if there are laws that are dictated TO God concerning Gods behavior, rather than God choosing Gods own reaction. I read Strobels book The Case For Christ years ago. I am glad you admit that some of your church fathers had wrong ideas about astronomy. However, biblical scholars have shown otherwise. I suggest education. I do look at the historical context of verses. They were deemed unfit to come near to offer the food of his God.. I am the LORD, who makes them holy. But the main point is, in that particular text, I believe the writers intend to imply that genocide was wrong and that God will punish them. I agree with you 100% that there is no place in US government for the institution of religious practice. The only somewhat logical answer I could give is that I believe this world and all its intracacies are much too complicated to be explained by all these random events in the universe. You think your interpretations are accurate, but they are based on assertions that you seem to make up on the spur of the moment. Because in my state, Kentucky, there is a law requiring two government officials in two different offices to affirm the existence and dependence on Almighty God in annual reports. So is this anything more than a slimming of the pot of people who could serve in the temple? There was no nation at the time that did not practice slavery, nor was there any egalitarian society. The disabled God : toward a liberatory theology of disability Who decides when it is historical or when it is legal? In the best case, it would allay a jealous husbands fears, and in the worst case, an adulterer would be punished. Addressing online hate speech | Africa Renewal - All the biblical cherry pickers, Christian and non-Christian need to actually be educated in the correct way to interpret and read the Bible correctly. Seven Things God Hates 16-19 Here are six things God hates, and one more that he loathes with a passion: eyes that are arrogant, a tongue that lies, hands that murder the innocent, a heart that hatches evil plots, feet that race down a wicked track, a mouth that lies under oath, a troublemaker in the family. Amos 1:3,6,9,11 Bible is not a direct word of God it is a written testimony of Gods revelation in words of people who experienced His revelation to them. And the Bible teaches us that the fact that Abraham had such a strong faith in God was what made him righteous in the eyes of God. It was people looking for reasons not to accept. Pastor John traces a key distinction between godly and ungodly praise. That is dogmatic atheism. You called me a blow hard with an axe to grind against Christians and their families. God Hates Abuse | Christianity Today Misanthropy is in direct contrast to John 3:16, which tells . Long after some Christian peoples had freed their slaves the Church still held on to hers. John Piper is founder and teacher of desiringGod.org and chancellor of Bethlehem College & Seminary. They answered these questions. Your email address will not be published. Way to go. And I also have no intention to start an anti-Islamic blog. It is built upon the flawed idea that we alone are worthy of God's love and forgiveness, but no one else is. He does not say that He does not love the handicapped, only that they are not to provide this particular service in the temple. The ultimate question is who gets to interpret the bible? One thing that has confused me is why God would not allow people with physical defects to approach the altar (specifically in Leviticus 21:1621). You seem to be forgetting mass revelation at Mt. You can believe that the Christian God does not exist, but the idea, the philosophical concept of Christian God does exist, and you hate that idea. Why dont you find something you like? I have great relationships with atheists and anyone else. Sickness is Not in God's Toolkit. These men represented all the Danites After excommunication, it was obvious that his teachings were heretical, and it is ridiculous to consider his heresy as an equally important Christian teaching as the official one. Any being who supposedly created the entire universe certainly has the power NOT to order one of his priests to marry a whore.. You should relaly investigate the canon prior the fourth century, especially the rediculous reasons why Iranaeus selected the four gospels and eliminated all others. Doubting and disputing religious views is a foundation of the religion that I follow. 6 Things God Hates ~ by Angus MacKillop - His Kingdom Prophecy Whether we understand it or not is our problem, or yours in this case. Hmmmm. God threatens to rub shit on the faces of his priests. Of course, I can go to the Louisville Science Center and watch the Foucault pendulum prove them wrong every day! This is the fairy tale that your church teaches you! Psalm 5:4-6; 9-10 God Hates the Wicked Proverbs 6:16-19 MSG - Seven Things GOD Hates - Here are six - Bible Do you hate Vishna, Allah, Isis, and Thor? Dogma is blindly following religious doctrines and ignoring any facts logic and evidence that are contradictory. Why does God allow people to be disabled / handicapped? To say it another way, he insists that there be a correlation between the perfections of those who approach the sanctuary and the perfection of the sanctuary itself, which is a reflection of his own perfection. They are based on a combination of an understanding of the text in its original language, an understanding of the life led be ancient peoples, and a philosophy that places those words at that time. He, however, had abandoned the faith and described himself as agnostic. Here is the website of this conference: http://www.galileowaswrong.com/galileowaswrong/. What if there were a reason not to do so? The descriptions do not speak of physical deformities, but rather spiritual ones. As far as the temple service is concerned, he is left out no more than I am. So unassailable was her position that in all the centuries she had no word to say against human slavery. As history has shown, doing so is a very dangerous incline towards religious persecution (I would argue that denial of gay marriage, insistence on teaching intelligent design, and using tax dollars on nativity scenes are all forms of religious persecution, albeit minor in comparison to others). So it seems much more likely that, while God could be doing all those things you claim, it is NOT God and just the Israelites doing what they think is necessary because they want to avoid pissing God off even it means killing someone or even groups of innocent people. He will punish the wicked in accordance with His holiness and justice. The pagan nations that surrounded the Israelites practiced human sacrifice as part of the worship of false gods. You love righteousness and hate wickedness; Therefore God, Your God, has anointed You. In Jesus name, Amen! Is that possible? God protected them from the Egyptians, but is powerless against the other tribes? No, I do not hate the Christian god. Rules for slavery over Israelites are different, but that is due to the inherent racism in the bible. I am the mother of 2 disabled sons, a community activist, columnist for special needs children, founder of a support group, & pastors wife. James F. Pope People can minister the word. Second, I have read the teaching of the holy fathers of the first centuries. The Pope? Perhaps its purpose, the reasons for slavery, and the way for slavery to end? A self-described "radical feminist" organization, the WLF has been called an "anti-trans hate group" by Glaad, an LGBTQ+ advocacy group, and appears to have developed a specific focus on . 18 Bible Verses about Hating God. For example, if you include Maccabees, your interpretation of scripture and doctrines would be altered. My point is that I can support you if you are in search of a practical outcome in seperation of church and state, or even a secular government. Most people do not see miracles. You did not answer and you failed to defend your claim that Lord Jesus had to be mentioned in the passage quoted for our interpretation to be true. Remember in those days the best educated who could read and write were the priestly class and scribes. George Matheson (1842-1906) went completely blind before his twenty-first birthday. Only single women even? February 25, 2020 Does God Really Hate Me? So why would God in the Old Testament not allow them near the altar? The gospel should be beautiful. Donald mad fun of a disabled man on the campaign trail and the evangelicals dismissed it as well. Then we end up with leaders like Jesus and Donald Trump, who are actually very similar people. My life proves your harsh judgement is unwarranted. If any could know, to absolute certainty, that all this was right, and according to Gods will and desire, surely it was she, since she was Gods specially appointed representative in the earth and sole authorized and infallible expounder of his Bible. It is not what is known by biblical scholars! If He were to provide a rule book to the people that would be so radically different from what they were used to, or provide a rule book that did not keep them from what was viewed as improper, then the religion would be rejected, much like the Miss Universe pageant would not be as widely viewed if men were contestants. God is holy. They believed they could stand in judgement of others. The Bible clearly tells us: Our God is a Jealous God ( Exodus 20:5 Our God is Vengeful for his own ( Deuteronomy 32:35) Our God is to be feared ( Hebrews 10:31) Our God is an all consuming fire ( Deuteronomy 4:24 ).) By the way, this idea is mentioned many times in the New Testament. The chapter talks of idolotry, anarchy, theft, and genocide of a peace loving nation, all as being bad. He needed as large an army as possible to defend his kingdom and riches (if he had any). What do you think? Iranian Muslims made a movie called Sandstorm in which Allah stops a President Carter ordered hostage rescue attempt with a sandstorm. Are you a theologian? You did what many Christians do when shown the obvious immorality of the bible. First of all, I never said said anything about dogma. If Christians could really tell a mountain to move and it would move as the New Testament says, I would believe in Christianity. But why the discontinuity? This Baptist minister opposed this, saying the state has no business getting into marriage, which should only be recognized by churches. The texts remain: it is the practice that has changed. I assume that you are one of those people who believe that Church is discriminating against women (because they cant be priests), and against homosexuals, etc. Which is more offensive: 1) Jews are Gods chosen people, and all others are not; 2) Whites are Gods chosen people, and all others are not; 3) Christian will go to heaven, and all other people will burn in hell; All three statements are forms of discrimination that are believed by various people. You admitted in an earlier blog that you were not aware that god ordered Hosea to marry a whore and threatened to rub dung on the faces of his priests. You refuse to look at historical context, which is a staple of biblical criticism. I clearly explained that and I see no counter arguments in your post. Your email address will not be published. Does God Really Hate Me? When Deep Love Feels Like Wrath The simple fact is the OT is very much like Hitlers Nazi ideology. It may not be right for us to do it today because such profound things have changed. You make many assertions in your responses, such as Gods purpose was for Hoseas life and relationship to reflect the current state of the relationship that the Jewish nation was having with God. Your problem is you know Im right you just dont want to know it. God can hate without sinful intent. Many ancient cultures believed there was something unclean with deformed people. Those are the two: unapproachable holiness and overflowing mercy and grace. The best I can do is say that it is how one had to function as a nation in the ancient world. I posted this answer becuase you kept making false statements about me and my purposes for this blog. Maybe just a glance in their direction? Sinai. How King David remained king after the Batsheba debacle confounds me, regardless of his apologies (although it seemed to confound King David as well). God Hates A False Witness That Breathes Out Lies 1.7 7. And God saw that the light was good. Allahu akbar! As a disabled person myself, I can understand the temptation to think this way . You express no doubts, and dismiss those who disagree with your viewpoint (not just those who refuse to reason). You did not specify which Scripture. The other advantage to the system was the priest could manipulate people to do work for the King, saying it was GOds will or perhaps to go to war. Yes, on the surface it seems that way but always with Scripture, there is always a deeper meaning behind the message. Hello, Pastor John. Why God would be offended for so many generations and blame some poor kid much later for what their ancestor did is of course nonsense. Why Doesn't God Heal People With Disabilities? | Articles - Catholic Say By sanctification, and then by the recreation of everything thats broken physical dimensions of the world and moral dimensions of the world God is also going to make everything in his presence perfect forever. Your interpretation is a partial one, you expect the passage you quoted to contain the whole truth on the matter. My guess is thats pretty basic to human nature. I have a wife, four wonderful children, have traveled the world, work as a software engineer for a fortune 500 company. That is why they are immoral by todays standards. Access-restricted-item true Addeddate 2021-02-26 18:02:38 Boxid IA40067221 Camera Sony Alpha-A6300 (Control) Col_number COL-658 Collection_set printdisabled The Christianity of today is different than the Christianity of 500 years ago thanks to humanism. I am saying that astorlogers have not demonstrated that they can accurately make predictions based upon the stars. And in the New Testament, we dont have that same kind of restriction. I am the LORD, who makes them holy. I know he was punished (child killed by god) , but not according to the law. He is the Creator of life, and all human life is created in His image. What Does the Bible Say about Disabilities? - Bible Study Tools I suppose God really rests his ACTUAL foot on the earth, God has an ACTUAL face, God used His ACTUAL hands to form the earth, and Moses saw Gods oh so hairy back. It seems particularly strange for a holy man to check another mans bits. Those with evidence need no faith. no man with a crippled foot or hand, etc, are all physical deformities. A book written or inspired by good would not advocate such immorality. Let is look at six things which God says He hates: 1) God hates haughty eyes. 2 So the Danites sent five of their leading men from Zorah and Eshtaol to spy out the land and explore it. Origen lived 185-254. . 21 No descendant of Aaron the priest who has any defect is to come near to present the offerings made to the LORD by fire. God bless. Would you pick up a book at Barnes & Nobel, read 1 line from 1 chapter & determine you know everything about the book? Women priests were often prostitutes for a god or godess helping men followers get closer via sex. But Im also not afraid to dismiss 100% the part about God commanding a man be killed on the Sabbath for gathering wood and say that God never commanded this. It is a shame that so many Christians still willingly worship an invisible being that is so obviously a product of the imaginations of the men of ancient times. Thats not going to happen. I have no idea why the synod in Hippo in 393 didnt include Hebrews, nor do I think it is of any importance for this discussion. You did not answer my question do you hate the Christian God? You totally ignored these verses and their immorality. Your comments about Athanasius and another John Chrysostom are interesting. Slavery is wrong. Will you post on what sort of slavery the Bible speaks about? I believe Jesus was God in flesh and I feel there are some specific ideals God wants us to find in the Scriptures. I wonder how you know how God could have created the situation in a different manner. Secondly, his stated approach was that of a journalist, not a scientist. The Church says so. Once again, you would have to investigate for yourself. For example, if I were told where to point a telescope and view angels, pearly gates, and golden streets, I would admit that the Christian heaven exists. My point is not the fear that I have, although it is there. It is crystal clear because all terms of Gods actions when expressed in human terms is allegory. I meant to imply that to apologists and the writers and readers of that text about Laish, idolatry is worse than genocide. In truth, all 3 statements are forms of racism or religious bigotry. Let me try to give an answer that I think honors the intention of both the Old Testament and the New Testament because I think both are the inspired word of God. Do you know how things would turn out? I respect everyone believe, religion, and nonexisting religion. There is a Baptist minister who is also a KY legislator. God discriminates against the handicapped in Leviticus 21 by not letting them offer the food of his god. It is interesting what you have to say about Eusebius and Origen. I dont think theres anything intrinsically wrong with Gods Old Testament ordinances in this regard. I am more educated than 99% of all Christians in the bible. Out of context is a phrase often spouted by apologists. Which means its truth all they way through. Yes, you brought up David and Bathsheba. Just 3 days ago I was with the Louisville Atheists and Freethinkers and Freedom From Religion Foundation of Kentucky distributing merchandise to American Village, a Section 8 senior citizen housing complex. I think using the arguement that religious entanglement of this sort is a slippery slope is a much more effective arguement and protest, as you are more likely to get people of other religions to agree with your viewpoint. =) Dont forget your helmet before you go outside and play today. Given the size of ancient Israel and its larger neighbours, they needed lots of physically fit men for the army. Yet now at last, in our immediate day, we hear a Pope saying slave trading is wrong, and we see him sending an expedition to Africa to stop it. You may believe in secular government and may be happy believing in something for which there is no evidence. These poetic words written by King David say that God not only knows us, but He brought us to life, and actually designed us intentionally the way we are. The text implies that had they properly worshipped the God of Israel before this genocide (by not getting the false idol and bringing it into the town), all would be good. You could also read Jesus Interrupted, Misquoting Jesus, the Apostolic Fathers volumes 1 and 2, and other books at http://www.bartdehrman.com/books.htm. LMAO! No nations at the time outlawed slavery, and by the 1800s, slavery was still crueller throughout the world than the rules of the Torah allowed. Never mind the fact that were having this exchange because YOU cherry picked a verse. For example, if God had allowed for handicapped people to serve in the Temple, there would have been times in history where it may have been outrightly rejected due to the perceived disrespect it would have shown. 21 No descendant of Aaron the priest who has any defect is to come near to present the offerings made to the LORD by fire. But I suppose thats why the religious need faith; they have no evidence. All rights reserved. Please let me be and dont ask me further questions. How do you know what you would do if you were God and knew everything God knows?
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